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 Post subject: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 26 Dec 2009, 13:58 
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I found 4d civic with a set of power windows for a good price in a local junkyard. My front window winders need a overhaul bad so I was thinking about going power.
I found a writeup on doing a full swap. Way to much work, and I think the person that did the writeup even said that they wouldn't go through the trouble again.

I'd like to just do the two front windows. I don't really even care if I can't control the passanger window from the driver side (I'm tall... reaching across isn't a problem :D .
Could this be done easily enough. Is it as easy as just running power to each window, and then wiring the switches in?

If so I figure I'll just grab one of the control switches from the rear along with the passanger one.


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2009, 05:24 
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I did the write-up.

If you are just doing the front two windows you should be able to do exactly what you are saying. I believe the front window has 5 wires going to the motor (2 are for auto-down I believe). So just leave those two wires alone on the motor. Then you'll just need to run 3-wires from each door, two fuses tapped into the power source and call it good. Easier route, but if I were going through the hassle I would do all 4, just because I'm not lazy :lol:

To answer your question yes.

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2009, 14:55 
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vtecn8ive wrote:
I did the write-up.




It was your writeup that made me think that mabey I didn't wanna mess with the swap :D .

I'm going to grab the complete set-up out of the junkyard. And sooner or later I may do the full setup. I just really need to get the fronts working better for now. My 6yr old son is with me a lot. He has a lot of troubles with the worn out winder mechanisms!


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2010, 16:17 
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picked up a set of front power window units.
I grabbed the front handles and bezels. I think the built in switch is intended to run the power locks. Anybody know any reason why that switch wouldn't work to run the windows?
Not interested in power locks. Would have got all four power window setups but one of the rears was missing.


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2010, 07:07 
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Not sure what you are getting at.

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2010, 08:02 
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power windows...

with the ignition key in the "II" position and the main switch on,
all the door windows can be operated by the switches.
even if the main switch is off, the driver's window is operable alone...

the driver's window keeps moving up or down by pushing the switch
past the first stop...


caution: always keep the main switch in the off position when children
are in the car; injury may result from unintentional window operation...

no?
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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2010, 13:34 
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vtecn8ive wrote:
Not sure what you are getting at.

guess I wasn't very clear...

In the car that I got the parts from the large switch that you can control all four windows with was gone. There were no individual switches for each window in the car either.
So I got the front power units, the front door handles and matching bezels. The door handles have a lock switch built in. I figure it's a two way switch.
I'm wondering if there is any reason why I can't just wire the lock switches to control the windows. That way i've got a nice clean simple install.


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2010, 20:39 
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if you can do the work...
do the job...

i already ordered...
maybe a pizza
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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2010, 04:04 
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Been a while since i thought about this. But now I'm driving my wagon daily and having to roll the windows up and down. Holy crap my window regulators are shot! It's a royal pain to put the windows up and down.

Ive got the power window units (driver and passenger) out of an 89 4 door. I'm going to use some universal switches something like this.
http://www.customstreetdesigns.com/163-33040160.htm

So i look at the wiring on both assemblies. The drivers has 4 wires, the passenger has 2.
Am i right to assume that put power to one wire and the window goes up, power to the other and the window goes down? Does the whole assembly just ground through the bolts to the body (no actual ground wire).

I also assume that the extra wires on the drivers are for auto (all the way up or down).

If anybody has a good grasp on how these work let me know.


Both windows will be wired separately, simply. I'm about 6'4" so reaching over to hit the button for the passenger is no problem.
I don't sit in the back seat, and i don't feel bad leaving anybody back there to manually roll their window up or down. :D


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2010, 01:58 
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Just do the whole thing!

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2010, 04:21 
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MrLewayne wrote:
Just do the whole thing!


Don't have the rear window motors, switches, master switch.
I read a how to. If i remember the writer even said if he had it to do all over again that it was a huge pain in the ass.
I need to be able to throw the front windows up and down quick a few times a day. that's the reason I'm only gonna do them!


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 27 Jul 2010, 06:49 
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no gorillA grips for this job, that's for sure...

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 27 Jul 2010, 17:10 
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Eagle Beagle wrote:
no gorillA grips for this job, that's for sure...

:mrgreen:


?


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 29 Jul 2010, 16:13 
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oilspot wrote:
Eagle Beagle wrote:
no gorillA grips for this job, that's for sure...

:mrgreen:


?


I dont get the gorilla either....

have you started on your power window install..???

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 00:11 
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i got the gorilla lol..

..instead of doing PW, how about just replace the busted window regulators? when functioning properly, the go up and down super easy

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 21:42 
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wagodizzle wrote:
i got the gorilla lol..



But why reply in some gibberish coded crap!
It's got a hondatech flavor to it!!! If you don't like my idea, I don't mind if you say so, or just don't say anything at all!

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 09 Aug 2010, 22:24 
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damn whats with these people these days. do i need to explain it? Gorilla grip = a powerful grip needed to roll up a window with a busted regulator. there, code decoded :roll:

and i have no problem with your idea, you do what you want. it just seems, to me, that if you are going through all this work just for one or two windows, you may as well just replace the one broken one with the same thing. thats all, there were no judgmental motives behind me saying anything.. certainly not what you took as this:

oilspot wrote:
It's that kinda shit that makes a person not wanna come back!


peeps just need to chill :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
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I figured Gorilla Grips+ Vise-Grip (pliers)...?

oilspot: In my experience the 2 main wires on a window motor are just reversed in polarity to change the direction of the motor. I haven't messed with Honda power windows, though.


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 10 Aug 2010, 04:58 
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wagodizzle wrote:

peeps just need to chill :mrgreen:


I prob do. maybe I just took that wrong.

sorry about that! This has been one of the most mature best flowing forums that I've found.


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 10 Aug 2010, 13:45 
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bam-bam wrote:
oilspot: In my experience the 2 main wires on a window motor are just reversed in polarity to change the direction of the motor. I haven't messed with Honda power windows, though.

Yes sir reverse polarity it is .. Image
im hoping someone can tell me what the other wires are on the drivers door & how they should be wired.. Image

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
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The other 2 wires are for the built in limit switches for the auto mode.. if your not using a original switch, no need to connect them to anything.

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
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Thanx Old School for that info..
my problem is Im attempting to find a way i could mod up some relays to make the auto up work for "oilspot" without having the motors n hand to test my work..
Wondering if they would be kinda reverse polarity but with a timer or stop @ top or bottom sensor... :?:

:idea: I plan on getting the locks and window motors and switches all out of the same car if possible so mine should just be kinda plug`n`play after i add juice to the drivers door..
but i need time :roll: to get out to the Honda\Acura junk yard over in Maryland....

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 10 Aug 2010, 17:59 
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Ya much easier with oem switches.. I hit the wrecker and got oem motors and switches from a 89 sedan and I'm going to put them in the 89 rt when I have a chance, the only downside is that the switch and covers are brown and the rt is gray :( There was somebody on here selling a complete setup.. you should look into that..

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
PostPosted: 11 Aug 2010, 20:33 
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3rd4ce wrote:

the Honda\Acura junk yard over in Maryland....


That must be nice!!! I'm clibing over ford aerostars to find the little bits of honda stuff that the wreckers have around here.

thanks for the hand with this stuff!!! I've been reading around over on the12volt.com. Lots of good shit there for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
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man ive been on that site for years....
:idea: but ive also been doing my own wiring and relays for about 25 years also... :!:
getting shocked is the fun part :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: power windows... quick and dirty
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oilspot wrote:
wagodizzle wrote:
i got the gorilla lol..



But why reply in some gibberish coded crap!
It's got a hondatech flavor to it!!! If you don't like my idea, I don't mind if you say so, or just don't say anything at all!

It's that kinda shit that makes a person not wanna come back!


This is an INTERNATIONAL forum remember? Not EVERYBODY is from the USA, maybe type in all caps "I ONLY SPEAK ENGLISH," like most Americans do over here in Europe. I also have met the guy and he has never once had anything bad to say on this forum.

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