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In your opinion is this a stupid idea?
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 Post subject: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 19 Jun 2010, 15:41 
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I recently abandoned the idea of building a b20vtec wagon when I kept getting problems with the cams being too big and it caused all kinds of problems. At any rate I have a new goal, kinda.
I want to make the wagon a road course car with mods as follows: rt4wd drivetrain, d16z6 with a 50-57 trim turbo, water to air intercooler (less heat soak), hf crx front sway bar, 22mm rear sway bar, KW Variant 3 Coilovers, body/chassis reenforcement, rear panel diffuser with a total underbody paneling, front air splitter w/canards, adjustable rear spoiler (maybe a duckbill), no rear seats, evo racing seats, 4 point roll cage, 5 point harness, POTENZA RE‐11 tires, and type R front brakes.
Now, I love thinking about this car being on the track as a real contender, but at the same time I think, "am I fucking crazy, it's a damn wagon".


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FYI the wagon is not a daily.

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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 19 Jun 2010, 16:38 
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kinda crazy but aren't we all. no matter what we do to our wagons if you do the samething to a crx or hatch they will be faster, handle better, etc... the wagon would be more unique.


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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2010, 02:14 
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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2010, 03:11 
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I think it's not worth it, the chassis won't handle well with too much power. Just get a toyota mr2 turbo.


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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2010, 09:45 
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I think it's not worth it, the chassis won't handle well with too much power. Just get a toyota mr2 turbo.

And then chop your penis off :lol:


I say do the wagon, but N/A Bseries.

Just do bolt ons to the motor I/H/E but really work the chassis and suspension. Ive been to many trackdays and at the most powerful car generally isnt the fastest.
i.e. 140kw ITR stripped out, caged, only suspension mods were bilsteins and Spoon springs was just as fast if not faster than a 280kw Turbo EG Hatch with similar chassis.suspension set up.

The less you do to the motor, the more reliable it will be and the harder you can push.

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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 24 Jun 2010, 16:54 
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RWD! RWD! We should have some billet transfer case housings sometime soon. It'd work awesome with the boosted D series. Just address all your engine cooling really thoroughly, and it'll be a blast.

If you go RWD, I wouldn't bother with the rear sway bar. Get your hands on an EF Suspension Techniques 22 front bar, and you're good to go. Then you can sort the handling by trying different spring rates. If you're going to do the RT4WD conversion, then you have all the fab skills needed to do the RWD conversion. Plus for road course work, the 4WD will not handle as well as you hope. With the newer STi and Evo electronic torque distribution they handle pretty well, but with our older basic AWD technology, it's not as good.


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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 25 Jun 2010, 04:03 
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Well I am not converting the car from a 2wd to a 4wd I am just going back to the rt4wd system. I am worried that the rwd conversion that you are doing seems a bit over my head. ..... Well I guess the only thing that puts me off the rwd thing is the lsd/axle problems you are having and of course the $1000 driveshaft.

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PostPosted: 25 Jun 2010, 05:21 
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It's all resolved. I'm working on a new problem right now. I busted my transfer case housing. I'm looking at getting a billet
case made. In the meantime, I'm putting it back together with another OEM housing.

Since you already have the mounting points for the driveshaft, all you'd really need to do is weld up your viscous coupler. The LSD/axle issues were simply that Frank at DSS and I guessed wrong on what axle configuration we needed. It's fixed.

Have a look at my member's ride thread. There's a bunch more info there.


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PostPosted: 25 Jun 2010, 05:38 
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Why not just run smaller cams and stick w/the B series since everything is already setup for that?


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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 25 Jun 2010, 11:22 
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Because I really miss having a single cam and I have never owned a boosted car before......and well everything other than the short block is sold.


Jaker the more I look at your build the more I want to follow your lead. I may have to budget in some areas but I can see that the billet housing will be a must. I know I would be able to at least get away with a cheaper 2 piece driveshaft. oh and thanks mate for being a pioneer in our little wagon world.

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 Post subject: Re: I come to you in a confused state of mind :?
PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 07:20 
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Not dumb at all. My wagon is a full dedicated track vehicle. Build what would make you happy, and just prove people (like the Mr. MR2 lol) wrong. O and be careful with the under body paneling because thats restricted in most classes. That is if your building to be in a class. Good luck tho!

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